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Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby chickypoo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:27 am

My baby is a TERRIBLE sleeper...and i don' tmean just at night....24 hrs a day. The first month I cut out ALL dairy, put her on probiotics, I went on probiotics, seeing chiro (still) as she was EXTREMELY gassy. THat has now resolved, she is gaining weight well, nursing/latching well, soaking diapers, not gassy no more. All is good in the feeding departement and I really don't think it's hunger that's an issue. She is a very high maintenence baby in that she ALWAYS needs to be cuddled, rocked or bounced. The minute we try to put her down, she wakes. She WILL NOT take a soother, bottle, does not like the swing, stroller or car ride...she screams...just wants to be rocked/bounced while sleeping. It's been 8 weeks of this and I am soooooooooooooooo tired. I don't expect her to sleep through the night, but 2 hr stretches would be soooooo nice...day and night. I need help, ideas....feeling very sad now cause I am so sleep deprived and it is so frustrating to have your baby sleeping so soundly...but the minute she is put down, she wakes.
And i can't keep her in a snuggli as my back and neck are soooo screwed up. HOw do i get her to get into a deep sleep??
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby MarionG on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:00 am

All babies are different and I so feel for you right now. So huggs for you.

I know you wouldn't have posted here if you didn't want some "tricks" to get baby to sleep some more so here are a few I have learned from my 3 and my home daycare babes -

A lot of the time it's gas. Burp them like crazy and when you think they have burped enough, keep going. There is always another burp lurking in there - get it out.

Swaddling - baby may be too hot or too cold. Also one of mine would wake up because of the loss of heat when I laid her down. Try to keep the same contact spots warm or put an extra boundary layer between you and baby so that when you put her down that spot doesn't get cold and wake her up.

Try to put her to sleep without holding her. This one is hard especially if she falls asleep while feeding. Maybe try patting her gently.

How long is she staying awake between naps? Maybe try keeping her awake longer than usual. Then warm bath, full tummy and many crossed finger and toes!

She'll figure it out soon. They all do eventually. Good Luck....
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby ashmel on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:37 am

My first was like this...what i eventually had to do was sit on the couch half-reclined, surround myself with pillows so baby couldn't go anywhere, and put her on my tummy/chest, and that's how we slept for a few months....oh, and baby slept on her tummy....so basically it is everything you're told not to do, but honestly i feel that if you're not getting enough sleep you're a lot more detrimental to her health, and your own than by having her sleep on you and you both getting good sleep. Especially if you're driving anywhere with her.

So I guess this would be a last resort type option, but there you go.
Good luck. :)

Also, we have since purchased a recliner which works for this SO much more easily than the couch.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby StitchedUp on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:02 am

How long do you leave her crying before you pick her up again? My sister-in-law had a similar experience, and it turned out that her baby was just one of those that really needed a big crying jag before it could settle down to sleep. She had a really hard time coming to terms with the fact that she needed to just put the baby down and leave, but it did work.

I'm sure I've seen posts about a sleep specialist who can work wonders. Perhaps someone else knows the name of the person I'm thinking of.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby chickypoo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:23 am

Thanks MRM...
I already do heat up her bed (her and I sleep in the spare bedroom) with a heating pad so when i transfer her from my arms, its a nice warm spot.
I swaddle her as well...she hates it and often kicks free so it's more of a half swaddle as she kicks out of it alot. And if i try to keep her awake longer...that just backfires as she gets so overtired it makes EVERYTHING worse. And you can't really keep an 8 week old "up" ..when they're tired, they're tired.

Ashmel...I have slept in the recliner chair MANY a nights with her on my chest...or my husbands chest. I have also had her sleep on her tummy...on a warmed up heated area on the bed (i know a big no no) and it often does not work...once in a while, it does....
I also have a 5 year old too and i just can't be laying down with the baby day and night.

I often let her have a big cry before cuddling her as she is a baby that needs to cry and fuss before sleeping....i have figured out that much...however crying it out till she falls asleep isn't gonna work...she is soooooooooo persistant and determined...and just does NOT cry her self to sleep....we tried that.
IT's all so frustrating. Right now i have her in a vibrating chair in the kitchen under the kitchen fan....it's been 20 mins!!!
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby bluerose0602 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:13 pm

I would suggest getting a wrap, I have a Sleepy Wrap, or which ever carrier that you find comfortable. This way, she can have the contact that she needs with you, and you can have the contact you need with everything else while she sleeps. The ladies at Mothering Touch will be able to help you choose from the variety they sell and show you how to put them on.

This will not last forever and in the end will be a blip in the life you have together. Her wanting/needing to be on you is something that she needs right now. Gradually over time it will lessen.




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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby LJ's Mom on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:37 pm

This kind of sounds like my second DS when he was around 3-4 months. Nothing would make him happy and every time we put him down he was up again within a few minutes.

I hope you get through this quickly. Have you tried playing different kinds of music and not necessarily quietly?? I know it sounds weird but DH and I were at our wits end and we actually tried playing more adult music to get him to sleep and it did work for the most part (of course sometimes it didn't). DS really hated nursery music so we would play rock, hip hop, country and he loved it and would eventually fall asleep. A little unconventional maybe but it worked... now at just over a year, he has no problem sleeping and is definitely a music lover, dancin all over the place. Good luck :-)
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby ashmel on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:05 pm

http://www.sleepsense.net/victoria/

This is the sleep consultant who advertises on KIV.

I wish I could be of more help to you. I wish you sleep, and soon!
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby LeftyChef on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:51 pm

My second baby had a lot of issues with food and gas and other things. I would sit on the couch with my feet on a pillow on the floor and put him over one knee with his head facing the couch. He would cry for a while then eventually give up. He's almost 4 months now and no longer needs the knee trick. My first baby would scream for about 30 minutes(always during Jeopardy for some reason) and then give up and sleep. This one screams for about 10 minutes and gives up. Picking them up and trying different things to quiet them just prolonged the process. I found it was best to walk away and let them cry it out. You have to be strong enough to listen to it but if it works then the time they cry will shorten. Maybe run the vacuum cleaner(some babies seem to like the noise). Though if you're as tired as I expect you are then vacuuming is probably the LAST thing you want to do. I totally feel for you on the sleep deprivation and screwed up back. I'd forgotten between babies how much your back hurts for the first months of a new babe. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby saucy on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:16 pm

Have you ruled out reflux? It could be "silent" - not all babes with reflux actually spit up a lot. I'd explore that more - car seats, strollers and swings can all make reflux worse, as of course lying flat on the back does.

The sleepy wrap (long fabric wraps that you tie around yourself) are awesome. I also have back/neck/shoulder issues and could tolerate it with DD who spent all her time in it as a baby, for the same reasons as yours.

I waited until DD was 8 weeks and put her on reflux meds. Right away we saw improvement - she could tolerate the car seat and started liking the baby swing. She still didn't sleep flat on her back though - I had a rock n' play sleeper by Fisher Price that is no longer sold in Canada unfortunately.

Have you read the Happiest Baby on the Block (tried the 5 s's at the same time - sshhh, swaddle, swing, suck and side lie). That book/DVD was great for us - both my kids liked different variations.

I used to pace in front of the kitchen sink with the water on (who knows why, she liked that sound), with DD cradled in my arms/turned on her side, swaddled and my pinky finger in her mouth :shock: for hours at night. It's crazy looking back now, and DH and I can even laugh now, but OMG at the time, we thought we might go insane.

I'd seriously pursue the reflux route though.

Good luck.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby beany on Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:02 pm

I second the reflux theory. Silent and very painful. Sometimes no clue it is happening. Makes for what appears to be one very needy baby and these words come from experience.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby Keeper on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:50 am

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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby kruk on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:22 pm

I also think you should look into reflux. My first was similar, although it was around 5 months before we all clued in and he had damage to his esophagus :( Thankfully, it healed, but still :(

Rough times. Hope you get it sorted out soon.
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby leanne on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:29 pm

My first was a bad sleeper... but to be honest not as bad as what you are describing. She needed her arms swaddled in and super tight and I found a dvd that only played ocean waves as this seemed to help her sleep when I played it on her crib toy but she would wake up everytime it came to an end. The white noise really helped her sleep longer as she was just a light sleeper. She still is (at 7) I put a fan at her door if I have to get up early in the morning and don't want to wake her (sometimes works) and in the spring when the birds start chirping earlier and I have her windown in her room totally blacked out as the little sliver of light that creeps around the black-out blinds will wake her. She stills is an early riser, but now we get to sleep in until 6 at least. Sometimes, even 6:30 ;-)
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Re: Why does my 8 week old NOT sleep longer than 15 mins?

Postby chickypoo on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:53 am

Thanks everyone...lots of what was suggested,we have done over and over again.
Interesting to note about the silent reflux as I really did think she may have had it early on and she was on ranitidine ( after asking the doc TWICE) but i stopped giving it about 3 weeks ago as her gas/lower gut was the issue (or so i thought) and b/c she wasn't spitting up, i just thought she didn't have reflux. I have pulled out the ranitidine again and started her back on it...we see the doc next week.
I really think she is just a VERY light sleeper, in that if we put her down too soon after falling asleep, it's a done deal, she will wake up. I am learning too that she is a baby that just needs to cry and fuss before falling asleep and I have to remind myself of that. She has such a hard time getting into that deep sleep phase of the sleep cycles...seems to only get into that REM cycle but not the NON REM...maybe just a developmental thing? Am hoping it all settles soon!
Thanks for all the responses...great support!
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